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It has been reported (in The ChristLast Media, I must note) that the current Pope does not like the phrase "lead us not into temptation...

"Let no freedom be allowed to novelty, because it is not fitting that any addition should be made to antiquity. Let not the clear faith and belief of our forefathers be fouled by any muddy admixture." -- Pope Sixtus III

Monday, November 12, 2007

The Catholic and Jewish crackups continue apace (and hand in hand)...

The Old Gray Whore of Babylon: Two Faiths Divided on Women's "Ordination" Ceremony

The Archdiocese of St. Louis and the Central Reform Congregation are on the same side when it comes to advocating for immigrants and the poor, often finding common ground in a zeal for social justice.

I blame the "reformed" Jews in this thing less than the idiot apostate broads who think they are still Catholic. There is no reason to expect liberal Jews to know or care about Catholicism.

But when the Jewish congregation offered its synagogue for an ordination of two women in a ceremony disavowed by the Roman Catholic Church, it drew the ire of archdiocese officials, who vowed never again to work with the congregation.

Amen to that. Actions have consequences, after all.

Maybe the Jews can call some unitarians nxt time.

The two women, Rose Marie Dunn Hudson, 67, of Festus, and Elsie Hainz McGrath, 69, of St. Louis, are scheduled to be ordained Sunday by a former nun as part of Roman Catholic Womenpriests, a small movement that began in 2002 and is independent from the Roman Catholic Church.

May God have mercy on their souls.

The Reform congregation’s rabbi, Susan Talve, informed the Rev. Vincent Heier, director of the archdiocese office for ecumenical and interreligious affairs, of the decision.

You too, Sue.

Mr. Heier told her it was unacceptable. “It’s not appropriate to invite this group, to aid and abet a group like this, which undercuts our theology and teaching,” Mr. Heier said he told Ms. Talve.

The Roman Catholic Church is framed in hierarchy, which sets rules and offers guidance for the faithful. The Jewish tradition has no centralized leadership, and congregations operate autonomously, answering to their own mission statement.

Thanks for the news flash, genius.

It was that mission that Ms. Talve and her congregation’s board relied on when considering the issue.

Ms. Talve said the women approached her this fall. “They said they were looking for a sanctuary, and that got my attention,” she said. “As Isaiah said, we are a house of prayer for all people.”

Dumbass. Isaiah is not pleased.

There are particularly nasty places in Hell reserved for those who dare mock Almighty God. That goes for rabbiesses as well as priestesses.

The congregation’s board voted unanimously to serve as host.

But the ceremony defies Catholic Church doctrine that allows only men to be ordained as priests and deacons.

The women are ignoring the warnings of Archbishop Raymond Burke, who said they would be excommunicated if they proceeded with the ceremony.

They have excommunicated themselves. All that is left is the paperwork.

Of the roughly 100 women who have been ordained as priests or deacons worldwide in the Womenpriests movement, including 37 in the United States, only the first seven were officially excommunicated by the Vatican, said a spokeswoman for the group, Bridget Mary Meehan.

Mr. Heier and Archbishop Burke pressed Ms. Talve and the board to withdraw their offer, saying the act would “cause pain” to the church.

“It’s akin to us inviting a group that is contrary to Jewish life,” Mr. Heier said.

Yeah. What if we had Neo-Nazi Bingo Night every Tuesday, eh, rabbi? How understanding would you and your congregation be?

Ms. Talve said she regretted that the church was pained by the decision, but added that denying the women would have hurt others. She said hundreds of practicing Catholics have called to thank her for taking a stand.

I doubt there were "hundreds". I know they were not Catholics.

But the archdiocese has clearly drawn a line with Ms. Talve and her congregation.

“This is not a lack of forgiveness,” Mr. Heier said, “but we have to stand for something. It’s a matter of principle.”

Amen to all that, Brother.

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